I currently use Youtube TV as my primary service, but they are raising prices.

So wondering what others are using. I selected them years ago for the live tv, and local channels (abc,nbc,cbs).

Secondary services I use are: netflix, prime video

Dropped some others to save money, but of course they are coming out with new stuff I want to see :-(
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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Amessyroom to All on Thu Jan 16 2025 01:56 pm

I currently use Youtube TV as my primary service, but they are raising prices.

So wondering what others are using. I selected them years ago for the live tv, and local channels (abc,nbc,cbs).

are you happy with them? and how much did they raise it to?
you seem to be subscribed to a lot of streaming stuff. is this cheaper than just cable television?

you could always join up with an iptv site and pay. usually this is 'illegal'

I don't watch much tv so i just download the tv shows i watch.

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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Amessyroom to All on Thu Jan 16 2025 01:56 pm

I currently use Youtube TV as my primary service, but they are raising prices.

So wondering what others are using. I selected them years ago for the live tv, and local channels (abc,nbc,cbs).

I'm in an area where I can get those channels over the air with a TV antenna. And I use a HDHomerun network-attached TV tuner, which can stream TV channels to my various devices with their app; I also have a Plex media server on a dedicated PC which is configured to use that TV tuner - Plex can stream the live TV channels as well. I have an internal PCI Express TV tuner in my Plex PC (which I bought before I found out about the HDHomerun, which is a stand-alone device). Both the HDHomerun and Plex can also act as a DVR.

Aside from the streaming options available with the setup, I think another nice thing is that the antenna and everything can be set up in a central place, so I don't need to attach antennas to my TVs. I currently live in an apartment, but if I had a house, I'd consider mounting a TV antenna on the outside near the roof, like people did in the old days.

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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: MRO to Amessyroom on Thu Jan 16 2025 10:41 pm

I don't watch much tv so i just download the tv shows i watch.

One show I like to watch is Jeopardy. I've tried to find torrents of the daily episodes but it seems like those don't exist, so the only way I can watch it seems to be via CBS (which I can get over the air here).

Nightfox

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Amessyroom wrote to All <=-

I currently use Youtube TV as my primary service, but they are raising prices.

So wondering what others are using. I selected them years ago for the
live tv, and local channels (abc,nbc,cbs).

I've been looking into IPTV for my local TV service. I want to replace
Comcast cable + Internet + phone with AT&T Fiber, SIP phone service,
some paid streaming services and IPTV for local TV.

It sounds a little rough around the edges. There's no support on Roku,
but Amazon Fire devices can.


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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Amessyroom on Fri Jan 17 2025 08:19 am

I've been looking into IPTV for my local TV service. I want to replace Comcast cable + Internet + phone with AT&T Fiber, SIP phone service, some paid streaming services and IPTV for local TV.

It sounds a little rough around the edges. There's no support on Roku, but Amazon Fire devices can.

Are you able to get over-the-air broadcast TV with an antenna?

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jan 17 2025 09:36 am

Are you able to get over-the-air broadcast TV with an antenna?

Just chiming in to say this is still a viable option today. Our house had an antenna already installed when we bought it in '07, and I've kept it installed ever since. Great for local news, weather, and (some) sports. Also nice for FM.

I also use the mast as a means to get onto the roof to clean the gutters once a year.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jan 17 2025 09:36 am

Are you able to get over-the-air broadcast TV with an antenna?

I bought 2 indoor HDTV antennas - no luck finding any stations. I've got a mountain range between me and most of the stations.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Amessyroom on Fri Jan 17 2025 08:19 am

Amessyroom wrote to All <=-

I currently use Youtube TV as my primary service, but they are

raising
prices.

So wondering what others are using. I selected them years ago for

the
live tv, and local channels (abc,nbc,cbs).

I've been looking into IPTV for my local TV service. I want to replace Comcast cable + Internet + phone with AT&T Fiber, SIP phone service,
some paid streaming services and IPTV for local TV.

It sounds a little rough around the edges. There's no support on Roku,
but Amazon Fire devices can.

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With an easy-to-navigate interface, customizable channel lists, and advanced playback features, IPTV Pro is your go-to solution for enjoying high-quality streaming content.

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Are you able to get over-the-air broadcast TV with an antenna?
Nightfox

I recently dumped my cable, was getting way to expensive for the amount of time i watched it. I bought a antenna to pick up local stations. I get about 30 stations but it all depends on where you live and if you have a lot of trees and buildings blocking your signal. Also I use a bunch of the free streaming services like Pluto, Roku TV and Plex Tv. Plenty of decent stuff on there to make me happy.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Fri Jan 17 2025 01:13 pm

Are you able to get over-the-air broadcast TV with an antenna?

I bought 2 indoor HDTV antennas - no luck finding any stations. I've got a mountain range between me and most of the stations.

That's a bummer. :/

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Cozmo to Nightfox on Sat Jan 18 2025 11:17 am

I recently dumped my cable, was getting way to expensive for the amount of time i watched it. I bought a antenna to pick up local stations. I get about 30 stations but it all depends on where you live and if you have a lot of trees and buildings blocking your signal.

A couple years ago, I heard there's a newer broadcast standard, ATSC 3.0, which has been rolling out in the US. A couple of the main goals are to allow over-the-air TV broadcasts in 4K and improvements to the signal to allow better reception in places that have a lot of trees & buildings & such. It looks like the main networks in my area broadcast in both ATSC 3.0 and the older standard; my HDHomerun Flex 4K tuner is able to pick up the ATSC 3.0 broadcasts and it seems like they do tend to get better reception for me. I often like to watch Jeopardy (on ABC), and for some reason I tend to have trouble getting the regular ABC broadcast station, but ABC's ATSC 3.0 channel tends to come in fairly well for me.

Also I use a bunch of the
free streaming services like Pluto, Roku TV and Plex Tv. Plenty of decent stuff on there to make me happy.

I have a few of those too - Plex TV, Roku, Pluto, and I recently signed up for Tubi. I don't use them very often, but perhaps I should use them more, as there's lots of stuff to watch with those. I probably watch enough TV as it is though..

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I currently use Youtube TV as my primary service, but they are raising prices.So wondering what others are using. I selected them years ago for the live tv, and local channels (abc,nbc,cbs).Secondary services I use are: netflix, prime videoDropped some others to save money, but of
course they are coming out with new stuff I want to see :-( ---

I do watch a lot of Youtube and subscribe to YT premium - not the TV part, just premium YT w/o ads.

I used to get Netflix, and still buy a month here and there when some series or show I want to watch comes out - I'll use that month to binge download anything I'm interested in and cancel.

For everything else, I rely on my .torrent stack. Its made up of several applications;
a VPN, qBitTorrent, Jellyfin, Jellyseerr, Prowlarr, Radarr, Sonarr, Lidarr and Homarr.

Those are a VPN, .torrent downloader, Streaming App, Library Scanner/Suggests movies/TV, .torrent Searcher, Movie Downloader, TV Downloader, Mustic Downloader and a Home Screen.

A hoy, matey!



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Are those named in homage to things piratey?

Dude - I never thought of that, but I sure hope so... hmmmm.
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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: MRO to Amessyroom on Thu Jan 16 2025 10:41 pm

Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Amessyroom to All on Thu Jan 16 2025 01:56 pm

I currently use Youtube TV as my primary service, but they are raising
prices.

So wondering what others are using. I selected them years ago for the live
tv, and local channels (abc,nbc,cbs).

are you happy with them? and how much did they raise it to? you seem to be subscribed to a lot of streaming stuff. is this cheaper than just cable television?

Actually not happy as I have been. Due to price and not being able to find stuff easily.

$82.99. I was actually paying that previously, to get extra streams. But removed that after my MIL passed away. Now they have added that 9.99 to the base price.


Yeah, I had too many subscriptions. Hence killing some of them. A few I have because of other subscriptions. prime (due to amazon prime) and Max due to AT&T phone subscription.

Youtube TV started out cheaper than my local cable bill when I switched to it. I think they have increased twice over the years.

you could always join up with an iptv site and pay. usually this is 'illegal'

I'm not familiar with iptv, I'll do some research.

I don't watch much tv so i just download the tv shows i watch.

I've done this on occasion, especially if it is an show from the UK. I get a brit friend to help me.
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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Nightfox to Amessyroom on Thu Jan 16 2025 09:06 pm

Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Amessyroom to All on Thu Jan 16 2025 01:56 pm

I currently use Youtube TV as my primary service, but they are raising
prices.

So wondering what others are using. I selected them years ago for the
live tv, and local channels (abc,nbc,cbs).

I'm in an area where I can get those channels over the air with a TV antenna. And I use a HDHomerun network-attached TV tuner, which can stream TV channels to my various devices with their app; I also have a Plex media server on a dedicated PC which is configured to use that TV tuner - Plex can stream the live TV channels as well. I have an internal PCI Express TV tuner in my Plex PC (which I bought before I found out about the HDHomerun, which is a stand-alone device). Both the HDHomerun and Plex can also act as a DVR.

I use plex, but have not looked into tuners before. I had never heard of HDHomerun before regoining the BBS scene. I'll have to do some research and see how these work and their costs. I new plex could use a tuner, but have never had a computer with space for an actual add-on tuner card.

Aside from the streaming options available with the setup, I think another nice thing is that the antenna and everything can be set up in a central place, so I don't need to attach antennas to my TVs. I currently live in an apartment, but if I had a house, I'd consider mounting a TV antenna on the outside near the roof, like people did in the old days.

Haven't had much luck with indoor HD antenna's , I actually have a tower erected at both of my houses. But would be a pain to run cable into house from outside; would prefer a indoor solution. I was using one of the flat HD anntennas when testing in the house.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Fri Jan 17 2025 01:13 pm

Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jan 17 2025 09:36 am

Are you able to get over-the-air broadcast TV with an antenna?

I bought 2 indoor HDTV antennas - no luck finding any stations. I've got a mountain range between me and most of the stations.

I had bad experience with indoor antenna,also and gave up . But my neighbor has
had
better luck. My father-in-law has a tower at the house, I'm sure if I mounted something on it I could get signal. But don't think I could do all the cable run into the house myself.
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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Cozmo to Nightfox on Sat Jan 18 2025 11:17 am

Are you able to get over-the-air broadcast TV with an antenna?
Nightfox

I recently dumped my cable, was getting way to expensive for the amount of time i watched it. I bought a antenna to pick up local stations. I get about 30 stations but it all depends on where you live and if you have a lot of trees and buildings blocking your signal. Also I use a bunch of the free streaming services like Pluto, Roku TV and Plex Tv. Plenty of decent stuff on there to make me happy.

indoor antennas failed for me. Maybe I should try external, i just cannot climb under the house to run cable; and wife would have a "cow" if she saw or found out I climbed the tower. LOL

I probably need to look at using some of the free services. Only thing is, you cannot pause them (so back to oldtime tv), I love DVR. That's the other reason I went to youtube tv for their DVR and easy of use. I don't have to watch it when it comes on, but on my schedule.

I have all three of the services you mention; but don't use them reguarlly.

-=Cozmo=-

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Nightfox wrote to Cozmo <=-

I have a few of those too - Plex TV, Roku, Pluto, and I recently signed
up for Tubi. I don't use them very often, but perhaps I should use
them more, as there's lots of stuff to watch with those. I probably
watch enough TV as it is though..

If Roku supported IPTV, I'd stick with IPTV for terrestrial channels,
pick one streaming service and explore all of the free/ad supported
content on Roku - there's a ton of it.

Amazon Fire sticks support IPTV, but I don't know about their other
channels.

If I ever need to cut my expenses way back, that's where I'd start.



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paulie420 wrote to Amessyroom <=-

For everything else, I rely on my .torrent stack. Its made up of
several applications; a VPN, qBitTorrent, Jellyfin, Jellyseerr,
Prowlarr, Radarr, Sonarr, Lidarr and Homarr.

I need to check out the Arrs - I'm doing it all manually now, finding
out what I want to see, then going to tracker sites. Once the content is
here, I'm using DLNA to stream to Roku devices.



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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Amessyroom to Nightfox on Mon Jan 20 2025 05:17 am

I use plex, but have not looked into tuners before. I had never heard of HDHomerun before regoining the BBS scene. I'll have to do some research and see how these work and their costs. I new plex could use a tuner, but have never had a computer with space for an actual add-on tuner card.

The HDHomerun actually isn't an internal card, it's a stand-alone box that plugs into your network. Plex is able to connect to it and use it as a TV tuner to stream and record broadcasts though. You could buy an internal tuner card if you want though (one is the Hauppauge WinTV).

Since the HDHomerun is a stand-alone box, it also has its own smart app you can install on your devices to connect to the tuner and steram live TV.

Nightfox

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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Nightfox to Amessyroom on Mon Jan 20 2025 10:13 am

Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Amessyroom to Nightfox on Mon Jan 20 2025 05:17 am

I use plex, but have not looked into tuners before. I had never heard of HDHomerun before regoining the BBS scene. I'll have to do some research and see how these work and their costs. I new plex could use a tuner, but have never had a computer with space for an actual add-on tuner card.

The HDHomerun actually isn't an internal card, it's a stand-alone box that plugs into your network. Plex is able to connect to it and use it as a TV tuner to stream and record broadcasts though. You could buy an internal tuner card if you want though (one is the Hauppauge WinTV).

Since the HDHomerun is a stand-alone box, it also has its own smart app you can install on your devices to connect to the tuner and steram live TV.

I have an HDHomeRun too (and recording into Plex DVR) - it works great, but nobody watches the recording in my household. It's Internet streaming all around. <shrug>
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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Mon Jan 20 2025 02:59 pm

I have an HDHomeRun too (and recording into Plex DVR) - it works great, but nobody watches the recording in my household. It's Internet streaming all around. <shrug>

There are some shows that my wife and I like to watch, such as Jeopardy, and occasionally America's Funniest Home Videos, Beat Shazam (music game show), and others that I DVR from over the air. So we're getting some use out of it.

Nightfox

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For everything else, I rely on my .torrent stack. Its made up of several applications; a VPN, qBitTorrent, Jellyfin, Jellyseerr, Prowlarr, Radarr, Sonarr, Lidarr and Homarr.

I need to check out the Arrs - I'm doing it all manually now, finding
out what I want to see, then going to tracker sites. Once the content is here, I'm using DLNA to stream to Roku devices.

Many times I prefer searching w/ prowlarr and not the other automated arr searchers.

However, I do make use of many of them..



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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Amessyroom to MRO on Mon Jan 20 2025 05:12 am

Actually not happy as I have been. Due to price and not being able to find stuff easily.

$82.99. I was actually paying that previously, to get extra streams. But removed that after my MIL passed away. Now they have added that 9.99 to the base price.

so whats this 83 dollars from? this isnt youtube plus, right?

with iptv you watch on your desktop or with an app on your tv or other device. they basically have almost everything, usually. i watched the tyson fight on iptv. i was able to watch it without the netflix difficulties.

i will private msg you one that i know of.

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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: MRO to Amessyroom on Tue Jan 21 2025 05:51 am

Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Amessyroom to MRO on Mon Jan 20 2025 05:12 am

Actually not happy as I have been. Due to price and not being able to find
stuff easily.

$82.99. I was actually paying that previously, to get extra streams. But
removed that after my MIL passed away. Now they have added that 9.99 to
the base price.

so whats this 83 dollars from? this isnt youtube plus, right?

Youtube TV . Live TV/DVR/etc.

with iptv you watch on your desktop or with an app on your tv or other device. they basically have almost everything, usually. i watched the tyson fight on iptv. i was able to watch it without the netflix difficulties.

i will private msg you one that i know of.

Thanks. Received email. Will checkout.
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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: MRO to Amessyroom on Tue Jan 21 2025 05:51 am

with iptv you watch on your desktop or with an app on your tv or other device. they basically have almost everything, usually. i watched the tyson fight on iptv. i was able to watch it without the netflix difficulties.
i will private msg you one that i know of.

I would be intrested as well if you don't mind droping me a message as well :)

BrokenMind

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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Brokenmind to MRO on Tue Jan 21 2025 10:04 am

Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: MRO to Amessyroom on Tue Jan 21 2025 05:51 am

with iptv you watch on your desktop or with an app on your tv or other device. they basically have almost everything, usually. i watched the tyson fight on iptv. i was able to watch it without the netflix difficulties.
i will private msg you one that i know of.

I would be intrested as well if you don't mind droping me a message as well :)

i dont really use that stuff so i'm no expert.
if you search for google you can find some.
they all work the same. https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/best-iptv-service-provider-subscriptions/

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: fusion to All on Tue Jan 21 2025 07:19 pm

How are these messages getting quoted like this? Is it a specific reader? BBS version or something? Is it properly rendered on Sync? Would hate to fiddle with my settings on vert when this is the only user it happens with.

(I feel like I've seen this behavior before but it was a long time ago)

you can reply back in the sub that it happend. we're informal here.

it's probably shitty mystic.

there's nothing funny here except he's not doing a carriage return after
his replies.
also his quotes have >>'s for himself

http://bbs.bbses.info/tmpfusion.txt

he's using slyedit and i'm using a slighty modified version
of deuce's editor fsedit

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: MRO to fusion on Wed Jan 22 2025 03:39 am

also his quotes have >>'s for himself

http://bbs.bbses.info/tmpfusion.txt

The >> means those lines were already quoted in the previous message, so it's a 2nd level of quoting.

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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Nightfox to Amessyroom on Mon Jan 20 2025 10:13:07

The HDHomerun actually isn't an internal card, it's a stand-alone box that plugs into your network. Plex is able to connect to it and use it as a
TV
tuner to stream and record broadcasts though. You could buy an internal tuner card if you want though (one is the Hauppauge WinTV).

Since the HDHomerun is a stand-alone box, it also has its own smart app you can install on your devices to connect to the tuner and steram live TV.

Thats what I bought - the quattro version its brilliant and with plex adds recording and advert skip facilities too.

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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Keyop to Nightfox on Wed Jan 22 2025 07:31 pm

The HDHomerun actually isn't an internal card, it's a stand-alone box that
plugs into your network. Plex is able to connect to it and use it as a

Thats what I bought - the quattro version its brilliant and with plex adds recording and advert skip facilities too.

I like it. I think the only downside right now with Plex is that although the HDHomerun Flex 4K (the model I have) supports the newer ATSC 3.0 broadcast standard, Plex doesn't support the audio codec used in those broadcasts. Plex can record ATSC 3.0 broadcasts but it won't get the audio. The major TV networks have ATSC 3.0 signals in my area, and I'd like to be able to record those with Plex (as those seem to get better reception than the older broadcast signals).

The game show Jeopardy is broadcast here on a station where their older signal (which Plex is fully copmatible with) has spotty reception for me, so I've been recording that show with the HDHomerun's DVR (instead of Plex) using the ATSC 3.0 broadcast.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Jan 22 2025 09:45 am

Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: MRO to fusion on Wed Jan 22 2025 03:39 am

also his quotes have >>'s for himself

http://bbs.bbses.info/tmpfusion.txt

The >>> means those lines were already quoted in the previous message, so it's
The >>> a 2nd level of quoting.

Nightfox

Am I doing something wrong in how I'm quoting? I don't see the messages as the other user posted, all together.

The > and >> lines are present but do have carriage returns or line feeds,
when I see my posts.
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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: MRO to Brokenmind on Tue Jan 21 2025 08:50 pm

i dont really use that stuff so i'm no expert. if you search for google you can find some. they all work the same. https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/best-iptv-service-provider-subscriptions/

I'll check it out i'm not an expert eaither that's why i was asking lol.

but thank you

BrokenMind

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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Brokenmind to MRO on Wed Jan 22 2025 05:17 pm

Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: MRO to Brokenmind on Tue Jan 21 2025 08:50 pm

i dont really use that stuff so i'm no expert. if you search for google you can find some. they all work the same. https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/best-iptv-service-provider-subscriptions/

I'll check it out i'm not an expert eaither that's why i was asking lol.

but thank you

BrokenMind

The services give you all the information you need. to use it it's pretty easy. there used to be one that had a free trial for a few days.
i'll ask my buddy.

i just prefer download

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: MRO to fusion on Wed Jan 22 2025 03:39 am

also his quotes have >>'s for himself

http://bbs.bbses.info/tmpfusion.txt

The >> means those lines were already quoted in the previous message, so it's a 2nd level of quoting.

eh i could have figured that out if mystic hadn't done this to it:

https://kirin.dcclost.com/~alex/wrappy.png

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Amessyroom to Nightfox on Wed Jan 22 2025 06:28 pm

Am I doing something wrong in how I'm quoting? I don't see the messages as the other user posted, all together.

In at least one message, I saw that you had written replies directly below quoted sections without adding a blank line in between. I suppose it's not wrong, but I think having a blank line between a quoted section and your reply would make it a little more readable. And it looks like other BBS systems or readers may look at those peices of text and wrap it all together if there isn't a blank line in between (though that's just a guess).

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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Brokenmind to MRO on Wed Jan 22 2025 05:17 pm

I'll check it out i'm not an expert eaither that's why i was asking lol.

but thank you

BrokenMind

hello, i sent you a private msg with the site that has a free trial.

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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Nightfox to Keyop on Wed Jan 22 2025 12:23 pm


Does the free version of Plex let you
use the HDHomerun or is that a pay
feature? I'm assuming the recording and
commercial cutting functionality are
paid features...

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Nightfox to Amessyroom on Thu Jan 23 2025 09:38 am

Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Amessyroom to Nightfox on Wed Jan 22 2025 06:28 pm

Am I doing something wrong in how I'm quoting? I don't see the messages
as the other user posted, all together.

In at least one message, I saw that you had written replies directly below quoted sections without adding a blank line in between. I suppose it's not wrong, but I think having a blank line between a quoted section and your reply would make it a little more readable. And it looks like other BBS systems or readers may look at those peices of text and wrap it all together if there isn't a blank line in between (though that's just a guess).

Nightfox

I'll try to leave a blank line. I never saw it mushed together; so wonder if the other BBSes do it for unknown reasons.

Thanks for your input on the issue.
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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: phigan to Nightfox on Thu Jan 23 2025 05:01 pm

Does the free version of Plex let you
use the HDHomerun or is that a pay
feature? I'm assuming the recording and
commercial cutting functionality are
paid features...

Recording is a paid feature, but I believe you can have Plex use a TV tuner and stream it live for free.

Nightfox

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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Amessyroom to All on Thu Jan 16 2025 01:56 pm

I currently use Youtube TV as my primary service, but they are raising prices.

So wondering what others are using. I selected them years ago for the live tv, and local channels (abc,nbc,cbs).

I set a personal Piped instance so I can watch Youtube without eating any advertisement. There is no way I am going to send a dime those sucker's way.

I don't really pay for any streaming service. My father used to do Amazon Prime, but they rarely have anything worth your time.

For everything else, DVDs.


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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Arelor to Amessyroom on Sat Jan 25 2025 05:44 pm

I set a personal Piped instance so I can watch Youtube without eating any advertisement. There is no way I am going to send a dime those sucker's way.

I don't really pay for any streaming service. My father used to do Amazon Prime, but they rarely have anything worth your time.

do you watch it on your computer? because you can use brave browser for that.

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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: MRO to Arelor on Sun Jan 26 2025 04:54 am

do you watch it on your computer? because you can use brave browser for that.

Well, I have a server which can be reached from anywhere. The idea is I can visit it using any device with any web browser. It is handy if you are at a party and want to show somebody a video but you don't have your device with you.

On my smartphone I have NewPipe, which is a client-side thing. It is handy because you can organize playlists and such without having to log into a Google account.


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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Arelor to MRO on Sun Jan 26 2025 04:20 pm

do you watch it on your computer? because you can use brave browser for that.

Well, I have a server which can be reached from anywhere. The idea is I can visit it using any device with any web browser. It is handy if you are at a party and want to show somebody a video but you don't have your device with you.

so what are you using for that? plex?

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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: MRO to Arelor on Sun Jan 26 2025 10:28 pm

so what are you using for that? plex?

Piped :-)


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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Amessyroom to All on Thu Jan 16 2025 01:56 pm

I'm in an area where I can get those channels over the air with a TV antenna. And I use a HDHomerun network-attached TV tuner, which can stream TV channels to my various devices with their app; I also have a Plex media server on a dedicated PC which is configured to use that TV tuner - Plex can stream the live TV channels as well. I have an internal PCI Express TV tuner in my Plex PC (which I bought before I found out about the HDHomerun, which is a stand-alone device). Both the HDHomerun and Plex can also act as a DVR.

Aside from the streaming options available with the setup, I think another nice thing is that the antenna and everything can be set up in a central place, so I don't need to attach antennas to my TVs. I currently live in an apartment, but if I had a house, I'd consider mounting a TV antenna on the outside near the roof, like people did in the old days.

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We are set up similarly here with an antenna and get 30 channels very well and use tubi and internet archive and ok.ru for movie streaming on the big tv. I bought us a 10 tb usb drive for the tv and download a lot of movies and music and complete tv series to it, commercial free. We tried Hulu and Netflix but didn't use either enough to justify the expense. We run a live stock ranch so not a lot of tv watching on average, but it works for us.
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Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: MRO to Amessyroom on Thu Jan 16 2025 10:41 pm

One show I like to watch is Jeopardy. I've tried to find torrents of the daily episodes but it seems like those don't exist, so the only way I can watch it seems to be via CBS (which I can get over the air here).

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Codefenix to Nightfox on Fri Jan 17 2025 03:06 pm

Are you able to get over-the-air broadcast TV with an antenna?

Just chiming in to say this is still a viable option today. Our house had an antenna already installed when we bought it in '07, and I've kept it installed ever since. Great for local news, weather, and (some) sports. Also nice for FM.

Sports is better OTA as well, it's uncompressed.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: The Lizard Master to Codefenix on Wed Feb 12 2025 08:57 am

Sports is better OTA as well, it's uncompressed.

Compared to streaming? Or compared to cable/satellite?

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Nightfox to The Lizard Master on Wed Feb 12 2025 02:25 pm

Sports is better OTA as well, it's uncompressed.

Compared to streaming? Or compared to cable/satellite?

Nightfox

All of those are compressed, so OTA (with clean signal) will always beat those.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: The Lizard Master to Nightfox on Thu Feb 13 2025 08:32 am

Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Nightfox to The Lizard Master on Wed Feb 12 2025 02:25 pm

Sports is better OTA as well, it's uncompressed.

Compared to streaming? Or compared to cable/satellite?

Nightfox

All of those are compressed, so OTA (with clean signal) will always beat those.

OTA is compressed video as well, but uses more bandwidth per channel and thus supports real-time encoding at higher (perceived) fidelity. I think DirecTV used to allocate extra-high bandwidth channels for special live (e.g. sporting) events too, but I'm not sure if they still do.
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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming service(s)
By: Digital Man to The Lizard Master on Thu Feb 13 2025 03:20 pm

All of those are compressed, so OTA (with clean signal) will always beat those.

OTA is compressed video as well, but uses more bandwidth per channel and thus supports real-time encoding at higher (perceived) fidelity. I think DirecTV used to allocate extra-high bandwidth channels for special live (e.g. sporting) events too, but I'm not sure if they still do.

Ah I did not know that! Thanks.

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OTA is compressed video as well, but uses more bandwidth per channel and
thus supports real-time encoding at higher (perceived) fidelity. I think

Did that become true with the conversion to digital, or was it even true
before that?


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I recently dumped my cable, was getting way to expensive for the amount of time i watched it. I bought a antenna to pick up local stations. I get about 30 stations but it all depends on where you live and if you have a lot of trees and buildings blocking your signal. Also I use a bunch of the free streaming services like Pluto, Roku TV and Plex Tv. Plenty of decent stuff on there to make me happy.

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Good for you. We never had cabletv out here in the sticks, but 2 years ago we did get cable available and we just went with internet only. We went from 8 mbps down to 400 mbps. It is so nice. We still only use digital antenna and get 40 channels on the mountain here. Sometimes now we watch freevee for judge Judy or old tv shows. Love ME tv. My brother speaks highly of Pluto, we will try it.
Have a good day cozmo.

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Good for you. We never had cabletv out here in the sticks, but 2 years
ago we did get cable available and we just went with internet only. We went from 8 mbps down to 400 mbps. It is so nice. We still only use digital antenna and get 40 channels on the mountain here. Sometimes now
we watch freevee for judge Judy or old tv shows. Love ME tv. My brother speaks highly of Pluto, we will try it.
Have a good day cozmo.

Pluto and roku TV are pretty decent. Cable was more of a convienance more than anything but, definitely not worth the price. I love Crime TV on my local OTA channels.

Have a good one!

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Cozmo to Rixter on Sat Feb 22 2025 11:00 am

Good for you. We never had cabletv out here in the sticks, but 2 years ago we did get cable available and we just went with internet only. We went from 8 mbps down to 400 mbps. It is so nice. We still only use digital antenna and get 40 channels on the mountain here. Sometimes now > Ri> we watch freevee for judge Judy or old tv shows. Love ME tv. My brother > Ri> speaks highly of Pluto, we will try it.
Have a good day cozmo.

Pluto and roku TV are pretty decent. Cable was more of a convienance more th > anything but, definitely not worth the price. I love Crime TV on my local OT > channels.

Have a good one!

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We use Pluto because it came with the LG TV we bought. We had the TV for a yearbefore we connected it to the internet. LOL. Pluto seems easy to understand. Itreminds me of a kind of tuner. Lots of good one show only channels. I remember
they had a Star Trek Classic channel that ran the old Star Trek Shows 24/7 and we left it there for weeks. That is kind of nice.
Have a great weekend Cozmo!
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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Cozmo to Nightfox on Sat Jan 18 2025 11:17 am

Ive used an OTA anntenae <sp> for almost 10 years now. The programming is much more wholesome. Where I live now, they are just starting to run cable lines up the road. I'm not sure I would be interested. Except maybe the internet part. My 10 gigs of Hotspot runs out fast. Especially now that I am retired and have alot of time on my hands now.

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Ive used an OTA anntenae <sp> for almost 10 years now. The programming
is much more wholesome. Where I live now, they are just starting to run cable lines up the road. I'm not sure I would be interested. Except
maybe the internet part. My 10 gigs of Hotspot runs out fast. Especially now that I am retired and have alot of time on my hands now.

I don't think Cable is worth the price anymore at least for me. There are so many free options out there to use. Hopefully the lines will reach you soon and you'll be able to stream and use the free services without worring about data.

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Bogomips wrote to Cozmo <=-

Ive used an OTA anntenae <sp> for almost 10 years now. The programming
is much more wholesome.

I was hoping to get local news and PBS on an indoor HDTV antenna, but
all I get was CBS, lots of religious and Spanish-language programming,
and some interesting retro sitcom channels.

With a Roku, the antenna input is called "live TV" and includes a ton
of streaming channels. If I was on a serious budget, I could get by
watching free streaming with basic internet service quite well.

Where I live now, they are just starting to run
cable lines up the road. I'm not sure I would be interested. Except
maybe the internet part. My 10 gigs of Hotspot runs out fast.
Especially now that I am retired and have alot of time on my hands now.

300-600 megabits/second and a 1.2 terabyte/month would be an adjustment
from hotspot internet...

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Cozmo to Bogomips on Wed Feb 26 2025 08:31 am

Ive used an OTA anntenae <sp> for almost 10 years now. The programming is much more wholesome. Where I live now, they are just starting to run cable
lines
up the road. I'm not sure I would be interested. Except
maybe the internet part. My 10 gigs of Hotspot runs out fast. Especially now that
I
am retired and have alot of time on my hands now.

I don't think Cable is worth the price anymore at least for me. There are so many free
options out there to use. Hopefully the lines will reach you soon and you'll be able
to
stream and use the free services without worring about data.

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Also, with cable a portion of your bill is automatically given to certain networks, even if you don't watch them or agree with their progamming.

I think my wife will be more interested in all the streaming. I'm used to the small selection of old shows and pbs that are offered OTA.

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By: poindexter FORTRAN to Bogomips on Wed Feb 26 2025 06:06 am

Bogomips wrote to Cozmo <=-

Ive used an OTA anntenae <sp> for almost 10 years now. The programming is much more wholesome.

I was hoping to get local news and PBS on an indoor HDTV antenna, but
all I get was CBS, lots of religious and Spanish-language programming,
and some interesting retro sitcom channels.

Sometimes I find that I have to scan for channels a few times.

With a Roku, the antenna input is called "live TV" and includes a ton
of streaming channels. If I was on a serious budget, I could get by
watching free streaming with basic internet service quite well.

You had me at "serious budget". Day after Christmas I was in the hospital and will not
longer be working. I have Disability Insurance through work for the next 4 years. That should get me to Full Retirement age.

It's just another speed bump down the highway of life.

Where I live now, they are just starting to run
cable lines up the road. I'm not sure I would be interested. Except maybe the internet part. My 10 gigs of Hotspot runs out fast. Especially now that I am retired and have alot of time on my hands now.

300-600 megabits/second and a 1.2 terabyte/month would be an adjustment
from hotspot internet...

Suprisingly, I would get by with the hotspot except it ran out too fast this month with all the paperwork i've been having to download. So now I'm using my wifes, and it's in the other room and I'm atleast able to get on Vert with two bars

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Bogomips to Cozmo on Wed Feb 26 2025 01:55 pm

Also, with cable a portion of your bill is automatically given to certain networks, even if you don't watch them or agree with their progamming.

The "Sports Programming Fee" is the worst - apparently Comcast charges this even if you don't have a sports package.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Cozmo to Rixter on Sat Feb 22 2025 11:00 am

Good for you. We never had cabletv out here in the sticks, but 2 years ago we did get cable available and we just went with internet only. We went from 8 mbps down to 400 mbps. It is so nice. We still only use digital antenna and get 40 channels on the mountain here. Sometimes now > Ri> we watch freevee for judge Judy or old tv shows. Love ME tv. My brother > Ri> speaks highly of Pluto, we will try it.
Have a good day cozmo.

Pluto and roku TV are pretty decent. Cable was more of a convienance more th > anything but, definitely not worth the price. I love Crime TV on my local OT > channels.

Have a good one!

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We use Pluto because it came with the LG TV we bought. We had the TV for a yearbefore we connected it to the internet. LOL. Pluto seems easy to understand. Itreminds me of a kind of tuner. Lots of good one show only channels. I remember
they had a Star Trek Classic channel that ran the old Star Trek Shows 24/7 and
we left it there for weeks. That is kind of nice.
Have a great weekend Cozmo!
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It has Star Trek and Doctor Who among South Park. Enough for months and even years...

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: anthk to All on Thu Mar 20 2025 09:56:04

Hey, guys.

We never had cabletv out here in the sticks, but 2 years ago we did get cable available and we just went with internet...

My family was rather late to the cable scene as well, though not /quite/ as late as you. We didn't sign up until '90, and the only reason that happened was because I signed up for TV and Internet for myself and split the connection between my den and the living room. My Ma quickly became a fan of Turner Classic movies and Lifetime. For me, it was all about the Sci-Fi Channel, Cartoon Network

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By: Mortar to All on Sun Apr 13 2025 21:24:52

[Continued from last msg.]

of Turner Classic movies and Lifetime. For me, it was all about the Sci-Fi
Channel, Cartoon Network and ZDTV--oh how I loved that channel.

As for streaming, I use a number of services, but for old TV show and movies, I like Tubi. I also have Crackle, but don't use it much. I've tried a few times, but they never seemed to have what I was looking for, and now that you have to pay for it, I don't go at all.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Mortar to All on Sun Apr 13 2025 09:24 pm

My family was rather late to the cable scene as well, though not /quite/ as late as you. We didn't sign up until '90, and the only reason that happened was because I signed up for TV and Internet for myself and split the connection between my den and the living room. My Ma quickly became a fan of Turner Classic movies and Lifetime. For me, it was all about the

Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but do you mean you got a cable TV and internet package from the cable company in 1990?

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Mortar to All on Sun Apr 13 2025 09:24 pm

Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: anthk to All on Thu Mar 20 2025 09:56:04

Hey, guys.

We never had cabletv out here in the sticks, but 2 years ago we did

get
cable available and we just went with internet...

My family was rather late to the cable scene as well, though not /quite/

as
late as you. We didn't sign up until '90, and the only reason that happened was because I signed up for TV and Internet for myself and split the connection between my den and the living room. My Ma quickly became a fan of Turner Classic movies and Lifetime. For me, it was all about the Sci-Fi Channel, Cartoon Network

We weren't rich or anything but we had cable television back when there wasn't much ON cable. nickelodian or whatever it was before then was a real weird show. the only show that i can remember the name of is pinwheel. i still remember the song by heart. then you cant do that on television came out and my mom didn't want me watching it. i had a crush on chistine.

anyways, when we had it, there wasn't always programming airing. it would black out for parts of the day and overnight. there wasn't much on it.
i remember seeing mtv the first time and it was lame as hell.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Nightfox to Mortar on Mon Apr 14 2025 10:03:06

Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but do you mean you got a cable TV and internet package from the cable company in 1990?

Yup. Cable had been available in my area since 1980-81.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Mortar to Nightfox on Tue Apr 15 2025 02:10 pm

Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but do you mean you got a cable TV and internet
package from the cable company in 1990?

Yup. Cable had been available in my area since 1980-81.

Including cable internet? It would be surprising that cable internet would have been available in 1990.. I don't remember hearing of that back then.

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By: Nightfox to Mortar on Tue Apr 15 2025 12:59:10

Including cable internet?

Can't speak for the early '80s, but it did exist when I got it in '90.

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By: Mortar to Nightfox on Tue Apr 15 2025 11:13 pm

Including cable internet?

Can't speak for the early '80s, but it did exist when I got it in '90.

Interesting. I hadn't even heard about the internet until 1995, and I thought it was all dialup for home users at the time. I didn't think there was any broadband internet until at least the late 90s.

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Yup. Cable had been available in my area since 1980-81.

Including cable internet? It would be surprising that cable internet would have been available in 1990.. I don't remember hearing of that back then.

In most places in the states, I don't think it was, unless he possibly
means IDSN service for internet. In 1990, I don't remember the Internet
even being a thing that most people were aware of. The "GUI WWW" was not really yet a big thing then.

I had dial-up internet then, and internet at work, and it was all text -- email, ftp, telnet, usenet news, and gopher sites.


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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Wed Apr 16 2025 09:05 am

Including cable internet? It would be surprising that cable internet would
have been available in 1990.. I don't remember hearing of that back then.

In most places in the states, I don't think it was, unless he possibly means IDSN service for internet. In 1990, I don't remember the Internet even being a thing that most people were aware of. The "GUI WWW" was not really yet a big thing then.

I had dial-up internet then, and internet at work, and it was all text -- email, ftp, telnet, usenet news, and gopher sites.

I wasn't aware of the internet until 1995. In 1990, I knew of services like AOL, Prodigy, CompuServe etc. though.

Nightfox

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On 16 Apr 2025, Dumas Walker said the following...

In most places in the states, I don't think it was, unless he possibly means IDSN service for internet. In 1990, I don't remember the Internet even being a thing that most people were aware of. The "GUI WWW" was not really yet a big thing then.

it's a bit disingenuous.. like saying 2.5Gbit internet was available in the 90's (it was.. to ISPs)

in truth (adjusted for inflation, 1995) just the cablemodems for service back then were >$1000

and (again for inflation) 1993? $11000 for the modem

it took @Home in 1997 to make cablemodem available in a meaningful way.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: fusion to Dumas Walker on Wed Apr 16 2025 12:50 pm

In most places in the states, I don't think it was, unless he possibly
means IDSN service for internet. In 1990, I don't remember the Internet
even being a thing that most people were aware of. The "GUI WWW" was not
really yet a big thing then.

it's a bit disingenuous.. like saying 2.5Gbit internet was available in the 90's (it was.. to ISPs)

in truth (adjusted for inflation, 1995) just the cablemodems for service back then were >$1000

and (again for inflation) 1993? $11000 for the modem

it took @Home in 1997 to make cablemodem available in a meaningful way.

Yeah, from what I remember, I think I first started hearing about broadband cable internet in 1999, though we didn't get broadnand service until 2001 or early 2002.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Mortar to Nightfox on Tue Apr 15 2025 02:10 pm

Yup. Cable had been available in my
area since 1980-81.

There was cable here with dial-up
upstream in 1990 (and probably prior),
but bi-directional didn't arrive until
quite some years later.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Mortar to Nightfox on Tue Apr 15 2025 11:13 pm

Including cable internet?

Can't speak for the early '80s, but it did exist when I got it in '90.

Interesting. I hadn't even heard about the internet until 1995, and I thought it was all dialup for home users at the time. I didn't think there was any broadband internet until at least the late 90s.

There wasn't (broadband for home internet) until at LEAST the very late
90's, in the real world.

I think the OP's memory may be experiencing some "bit-rot"...



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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: fusion to Dumas Walker on Wed Apr 16 2025 12:50 pm

it took @Home in 1997 to make cablemodem available in a meaningful way.

@Home was my first cable Internet provider. I remember it being 640Kbps downstream (which was a huge upgrade over ISDN I was using before that), I don't remember what the upstream was.
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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Nightfox to Mortar on Wed Apr 16 2025 07:29:16

I didn't think there was any broadband internet until at least the late 90s.

Turns out my memory is faulty. Comcast--my ISP--did't start offerig broadband until 12/96. Sorry about that.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Wed Apr 16 2025 09:05:00

...unless he possibly means IDSN service...

You mean ISDN, and no, just a synapse lapse.

The "GUI WWW" was not really yet a big thing then.

Actually, it wasn't a thing at all. The first widely used WYSIWYG browser was Mosaic in 1993.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Nightfox to Dumas Walker on Wed Apr 16 2025 08:52:05

I wasn't aware of the internet until 1995. In 1990, I knew of services like AOL, Prodigy, CompuServe etc. though.

I tried all of 'em at one time or another. I stayed with AOHell the longest--maybe a year? BBSes were my mainstay until Comcast offered broadband.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: phigan to Mortar on Wed Apr 16 2025 13:24:29

There was cable here with dial-up...

I was referrig to standard TV cable at that point.

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The "GUI WWW" was not really yet a big thing then.

Actually, it wasn't a thing at all. The first widely used WYSIWYG browser was
Mosaic in 1993.

I didn't think it was but couldn't remember for sure which year it was I
first tried out Mosaic. I knew it was between 1993 and 1997, because of
where I was living, but that was about it. ;)

The version I used came from Quarterdeck with a DesqView/QEMM upgrade.


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Interesting. I hadn't even heard about the internet until 1995, and I thought it was all dialup for home users at the time. I didn't think there was any broadband internet until at least the late 90s.

I remember people talking in 1993 about shell accounts at netcom, being
able to bounce around the world on one phone call. About that time, my
company got a 56k leased line from UC Berkeley. I had a shell account,
tried playing with tools like SLiRP to connect Windows to the net, then
had ISDN to my office, which had a T1. DSL wasn't until 2000 or so, and
then it was something like 384k/128k.

25 years later and I'm pricing out symmetric gig networking for my
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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Thu Apr 17 2025 08:18 am

Interesting. I hadn't even heard about the internet until 1995, and I

I remember people talking in 1993 about shell accounts at netcom, being able to bounce around the world on one phone call. About that time, my company got a 56k leased line from UC Berkeley. I had a shell account, tried playing with tools like SLiRP to connect Windows to the net, then

Just before I heard about the internet, I do remember people on some local BBSes in my area talking about having FTP access at those BBSes and that you could get to a shell and access FTP sites, download some files, then download the files from the BBS. I remember reading some instructions and getting on a couple of FTP sites (I don't remember where I found them), even though I didn't really know what these FTP sites were.

Nightfox

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Dumas Walker wrote to MORTAR <=-

The "GUI WWW" was not really yet a big thing then.

Actually, it wasn't a thing at all. The first widely used WYSIWYG browser

was

Mosaic in 1993.

I didn't think it was but couldn't remember for sure which year it was
I first tried out Mosaic. I knew it was between 1993 and 1997, because
of where I was living, but that was about it. ;)

What I remember as my first browser was called NetScape, probably
1994/95 I think. Still on dial-up at that time.



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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Thu Apr 17 2025 08:18:23

I remember people talking in 1993 about shell accounts at netcom, being
able to bounce around the world on one phone call.

I was introduced to the Net while I was a Computer Lab Assistant in college. The lab Coordinator said they had a shell account and showed me how to dial in using an a Tektronix 4051 and an acoustic-coupled modem. I was instantly hooked. I spent every free moment online that I could.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Gamgee to Dumas Walker on Thu Apr 17 2025 01:06 pm

What I remember as my first browser was called NetScape, probably 1994/95 I think. Still on dial-up at that time.

Same here (and I think it was spelled as Netscape, with lowercase 's').

Nightfox

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I didn't think it was but couldn't remember for sure which year it was
I first tried out Mosaic. I knew it was between 1993 and 1997, because of where I was living, but that was about it. ;)

What I remember as my first browser was called NetScape, probably
1994/95 I think. Still on dial-up at that time.

Same, re: dial-up. ;)


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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Mortar to phigan on Wed Apr 16 2025 08:17 pm

I was referrig to standard TV cable at that point.

Makes sense.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Mortar to All on Sun Apr 13 2025 10:11 pm

As for streaming, I use a number of services, but for old TV show and movies, I like
Tubi. I also have Crackle, but don't use it much. I've tried a few times, but they
never seemed to have what I was looking for, and now that you have to pay for it, I

We finally got cable on the street I live on and it was hooked up yesterday. For the last 10 years we have had only OTA channels, which I don't mind at all. One of the newer tv's we have is wifi ready and once we activated the wifi onto the tv
there were hundreds of free movies and channels. "120 channels, and nothing on". The best part was I was able to utilize the Antennae <sp> too. I usually only watch MeTV and Create.

I was leaning towards a Roku instead of a FIrestick for the other tv.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Mortar to Nightfox on Tue Apr 15 2025 02:10 pm

Yup. Cable had been available in my area since 1980-81.

Growing up in the '70s we could see the cable tv tower from our livingroom, but it wasn't available to our address.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Bogomips to Mortar on Fri May 02 2025 07:14 am

I was leaning towards a Roku instead of a FIrestick for the other tv.

There's one thing Roku has over the other options. You can get a remote (or app) that you plug headphones into and can then hear the audio of whatever you're watching. You can't install your own apps on it, though, only from their own "store". FireTV and GoogleTV and the Android based stuff beats Roku on all other functionality, IMO. Walmart has somewhat decent Android boxes, Onn brand, for under $20.

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: phigan to Bogomips on Fri May 02 2025 11:34 am

I was leaning towards a Roku instead of a FIrestick for the other tv.

There's one thing Roku has over the other options. You can get a remote (or app) that you plug headphones into and can then hear the audio of whatever you're watching. You can't install your own apps on it, though, only from their own "store". FireTV and GoogleTV and the Android based stuff beats Roku on all other functionality, IMO. Walmart has somewhat decent Android boxes, Onn brand, for under $20.

I have a Roku with a remote like that, though I haven't plugged any headphones into it.

I believe some streaming devices also support bluetooth headphones. On one of my TVs, I have a Nvidia Shield Pro, which is Android-based, and I agree, I think it's more functional than Roku. One thing that's cool about the Nvidia Shield is that RetroArch (the console emulator) is supported on it. I've installed that with some ROMs, and I have an 8BitDo bluetooth controller I use with it sometimes to play old console games on it.

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By: Bogomips to Mortar on Fri May 02 2025 07:17 am

Growing up in the '70s we could see the cable tv tower from our livingroom, but it wasn't available to our address.

In San Francisco, they built a huge television tower called Sutro tower that you could see from most anywhere in the bay area - if you couldn't see it, you could just point your antenna the same way everyone else's was pointed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sutro_Tower

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: phigan to Bogomips on Fri May 02 2025 11:34 am

There's one thing Roku has over the other options. You can get a remote (or app) that you plug headphones into and can then hear the audio of whatever you're watching. You can't install your own apps on it, though, only from their own "store". FireTV and GoogleTV and the Android based stuff beats Rok on all other functionality, IMO. Walmart has somewhat decent Android boxes,

Apparently, Firesticks support IPTV, which sounds like a great way to get basic channels over the internet. I don't have many local stations available over the air, so I'm thinking about this should I get rid of cable and go with AT&T Fiber.

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By: Nightfox to phigan on Fri May 02 2025 12:53 pm

I have a Roku with a remote like that, though I haven't plugged any headphones into it.

With the roku app, you can also play audio through your phone's bluetooth.

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By: poindexter FORTRAN to Bogomips on Fri May 02 2025 02:58 pm

In San Francisco, they built a huge television tower called Sutro tower that you could see from most anywhere in the bay area - if you couldn't see it, you could just point your antenna the same way everyone else's was pointed.

Recently I was thinking about the motion of the Earth and wondered how that could affect the reception of TV and radio broadcasts. The broadcasts go straight out from the antenna, but since the Earth is contasntly moving, surely nobody can really be in the direct path of the signal. But I suppose since the broadcast signals travel at the speed of light, any difference in position due to the Earth's motion is probably miniscule by the time the signal reaches you.

I wonder what the broadcast signals would look/sound like from a point in space though.. As the broadcast source would be constantly moving and rotating, I'd imagine there would be some sort of affect (doppler or similar?)..

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By: phigan to Bogomips on Fri May 02 2025 11:34 am

the Android based stuff beats Roku on all other functionality, IMO. Walmart has
somewhat
decent Android boxes, Onn brand, for under $20.

Thanks, I have to go to walmart this morning anyway. Not looking forward to it. EBT card weekend, and I get annoyed looking at all the buggys full of garbage food.

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By: Nightfox to phigan on Fri May 02 2025 12:53 pm

Shield is that RetroArch (the console emulator) is supported on it. I've installed that with some ROMs, and I have an 8BitDo bluetooth controller I u

There's a really cool Kodi add-on for games. Not sure if it's works or not, but you can use it to pick any game and it will download it for you and run it in an emulator. It can also be told to just go out and fetch a random game.

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By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri May 02 2025 04:15 pm

though.. As the broadcast source would be constantly moving and rotating, I imagine there would be some sort of affect (doppler or similar?)..

It is still a thing with radio as with sound, but from what I understand it is more prominent with higher frequency ranges.

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By: phigan to Bogomips on Fri May 02 2025 11:34 am

the Android based stuff beats Roku on all other functionality, IMO. Walmart has
somewhat
decent Android boxes, Onn brand, for under $20.

Found the Onn brand today on sale for $12. Am very pleased with it so far. What I can't stream I can always just switcht the input to my OTA anntenae <sp>.
Thanks for the heads up.

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By: Bogomips to phigan on Sat May 03 2025 11:14 am

Found the Onn brand today on sale for $12. Am very pleased with it so far. W I can't stream I can always just switcht the input to my OTA anntenae <sp>.

That's awesome. Is that for the stick or the little box?

Definitely install Kodi and check out some of the add-ons for it, like the Pluto add-on that shows up like IPTV channels under the TV "tab".

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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: Mortar to Nightfox on
Tue Apr 15 2025 02:10 pm

Yup. Cable had been available in my area since 1980-81.

Growing up in the '70s we could see the cable tv tower from our livingroom, but it wasn't available to our address.

Growing up in the 70's in a town of 500, cable was something we
knew existed, but that was it. :-) The few people in town (literally
could count them on one hand) that had a dish would get TBS and
such. :-)

If we went to my aunt's house in the next town, my sister and I
would go into the seldem used 'sitting room' and watch cable,
including the local cable access that was a clock in a room
with a camera that would oscilate betweeen it on one end and
one on the other end with 'advertisement' papers/flyers in
between that you could see as it went back and forth. :-)



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Re: Re: Favorite Streaming se
By: phigan to Nightfox on Sat May 03 2025 07:41:51

There's a really cool Kodi add-on for games. Not sure if
it's works or not...

Then how do you know it's "really cool"?

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By: phigan to Bogomips on Sat May 03 2025 02:00 pm

That's awesome. Is that for the stick or the little box?

Definitely install Kodi and check out some of the add-ons for it, like the Pluto add-on that shows up like IPTV channels under the TV "tab".

I got the stick model and Pluto already d/l, will check kodi tomorrow. Im not used to all those choices. only had like 12 channels with the OTA to choose from.j
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By: Mortar to phigan on Sun May 04 2025 12:25 pm

for games. Not sure if
it's works or not...

Then how do you know it's "really
cool"?

Typod and missed the word "still" in
there. Not sure if it STILL works.

I've used it a few times. Not much of a
gamer, though.

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